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Pictures

I put the pictures in here for now and was wondering if someone else could place them better, I'm not that good with this kind of stuff :(, also the strategy could probably be expanded on.

Resists

From my testing it seems that she has about 120% cold resistance. Used Frostbite + Elemental Weakness + Freeze Mine to lower her cold resist by 119%, which eliminated the "resists all elements" on her display, changing it to "resists fire" and "resists lightning". From this I think we may be able to assume she also has 120% fire/lightning resist, although testing it would be nice. Someone with lvl 3 empower, +2/+1 gems, and 20/20 dual curses can get 118% reduction to test it out. Alternatively one could use Elemental Equilibrium. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Olop4444 (talkcontribs)

Merciless Piety has 45 to all resists (elem and chaos). But she also has an implicit "reduced curse effect" modifier that decreases your debuffs by 70%. The math is:
  • Debuff applied by Freeze Mine = 15% (not a curse, so unaffected by Piety's implicit mod)
  • Debuff applied by each curse = (52% * 0.3) = 15.xxx% (rounded down to 15)
The total is exactly 45, hence the "resist cold" disappearing. You would need to reach a 54% base debuff from the curses if you want to see her "Vulnerable to Cold". Good luck with that ;) Chriskang (talk) 22:57, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Ah, I forgot about that. Thanks for correcting my math. Olop4444 (talk)

"Immune to damage"

I have just a small issue with this line of text under the "First Encounter" header: "When Piety's health drops to half she becomes immune to damage and retreats to a portal, leaving you victorious."

Piety, in fact, does not become "immune to damage"; rather, she cannot be killed. You can reduce Piety's health to 0 before she teleports away and she'll still live.

--Master Zoen (talk) 18:05, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Seperate pages for her encounters

I was thinking we should probably create seperate pages for each Piety encounter. There are three right now (four if you count the one in the Harvest). Biggest reason is the monster infobox, it can only display levels and abilities for one of them. Another option is to use the template multiple times on this page, one for each encounter. What do you guys think? --Climmels aka SirProblematique (talk) 00:48, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Yes, definitely! The piety fights are quite different even if the first two have a couple of spells in common. And the crematorium area page has always linked to a page mostly talking about what was originally an act boss fight. It also might make it easier to avoid plot spoilers and confusion for newer players. What do we call them though? Maybe one Piety page that talks about the lopre/background and links to the 4 monster pages, then others named after the areas like "Piety (Crematorium)"? --Qetuth-(talk) 08:30, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
Sounds reasonable. However, this raises a few questions;
  • What names do we use? The wiki hasn't been very consistent on monster naming. "Dominus, High Templar" is just called Dominus, "Atziri, Queen of the Vaal" is just called Atziri. Piety and Merveil have their full names. I guess "Piety of Theopolis (Crematorium)" "Piety of Theopolis (The Lunaris Temple Level 2)" "Piety, the Abomination (The Belly of the Beast Level 2)" and "Piety, the Abomination (The Harvest)" would be the correct names?
  • How does the wiki handle plot spoilers? I added some things about act 4 Piety on her page, but for a new player in act 3 who just wants some strategy tips on how to defeat her in Lunaris, those would be spoilers. Do we need a "Warning: the following text contains plot spoilers" notice or something?
--Climmels aka SirProblematique (talk) 11:45, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
I don't think we really need spoiler warnings, thinking more on it. I noticed the recent patch notes go out of their way to avoid naming things like the end boss, but I don't think people roaming the wiki monster pages are expecting to be protected that way. But it would be better to avoid talking about act 4 quests on act-3-specific pages regardless.
I didn't realise that Piety's monster name changed in act 4, I was a little dizzy at the time, so I was going to suggest the Piety-as-an-NPC page remain at Piety of Theopolis and the monster ones be abbreviated like Dominus. She also appears to have class specific speeches for her act 1 and 2 appearances now, as well as giving quests and lore, so I think the separate npc page is more needed. One other option would be to have just 2 monster pages for the two names, since there are common features each time. The monster level in the infobox only works for storyline uniques and map bosses anyway, since most monsters, and even many corrupted bosses, can spawn at a variety of levels. --Qetuth-(talk) 12:16, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
I definitely think we should be including spoiler warnings on pages like this. Iamacyborg (talk) 14:03, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
I just remembered that we're not too far away from being able to transclude monster infoboxes into tables for area pages, monster list pages etc. That being the eventual aim, 3-4 monster pages are definitely preferable. --Qetuth-(talk) 12:23, 15 July 2015 (UTC)